Ten incredibly condescending questions that completely miss the point
My blog was recently followed by someone who is going through the difficult transition from Fundamentalist Christianity to being an atheist. I linked to a blog entry that includes ten questions for atheists. They are condescending and filled with fallacious assumptions but OK, whoever wrote this crap, I’ll answer your questions. In the spirit they were asked.
I also did not edit the questions so misspellings and grammatical weirdness remain.
1. If there is NO God, then there is no Measurement or Standard for morality? Then What will define morality?
What a great start, right? No god = no standard for morality.
So the question begins with a false premise. Why is god needed to provide a standard for morality? Is God the only thing that prevents you from treating those around you decently? Is a quick read of the bible the only thing that is holding you back from murdering your neighbors? If so – please keep reading.
God does not tell us what is right and wrong. If he does, he is doing a shitty job of it. Some very religious people believe that the bible tells us to look down on homosexuals. Other very religious people believe that is incorrect. If God were responsible for defining morality, I’d like to see him/her/it get on the ball and actually fucking define it. Jesus told us to throw out the ten commandments and, basically, just be fucking nice to each other. Did we need God to do that?
I’m pretty sure most of us have figured that out for ourselves. Society defines morality and it is defined because we are social creatures and we need rules in order to live together.
2. If there is NO God, then there is NO meaning or purpose to Life. So without a God, does life have purpose or meaning? Without God, does the Atheist have purpose?
The first statement invalidates the need for the first question. You just told me that without god there is no purpose or meaning and then you asked me if life had purpose or meaning without god. Did you even think about these questions when you were writing them? The second question is pretty much the same as the first question so it is completely unneccessary. I was told there were ten questions but by my count, I’m already up to four. In this case, of course, they are the same question so I’ll say it is only one.
The only meaning or purpose to life is to live it. I can’t even guess at what meaning or purpose the writer assumes god provides. I don’t view worshipping Jesus blindly so he’ll let me live in heaven as a particularly noble purpose. There isn’t anything exciting about that equation. In fact, it suggests that my life can only have meaning if it is given to me by someone else. Why is that appealing?
I’m a comedian. I want to make people laugh. That is my purpose. That is my meaning. God did not provide that purpose to me. What gives my life purpose or meaning? I do.
Oh shit really? You once again are making an assumption that is laughably wrong. The most extreme form of Darwinism (or – as biologists like to call it – “evolution”) is Darwinism. Populations that cannot adapt fail to survive. There is nothing in the theory of evolution that logically suggests you should eliminate a population because you believe it is inferior. Eugenics is not logical so your premise is flawed from the start.
Let me offer a statement that is just as stupid. Are you a Christian? If so, then the most extreme and logical form of Christianity is this:
Would you support this? Why or Why not?
So to answer your last two questions. No, I don’t support eugenics. Why not? Because it is bullshit science, bullshit logic and it has nothing to do with Darwinism. Except in your head.
4. If we are ancesoters/descendants of Apes, then why are there no transitional fossils or species to support this theory?
Holy fuck. Do you even listen when someone gives you the answer to this question?
We are not descendants of Apes. Apes and humans share a common ancestor. At some point and for some reason, our paths diverged. And there are transitional fossils. There aren’t very many because the evolution of humans is farily recent and it takes a long time to make a fossil. You are looking for every fucking step between that common ancestor and modern humans and without it, you will never be satisfied.
How’s about you produce evidence that the fossils found so far aren’t millions and millions of years old? I mean, without completely ignoring all scientific evidence in our possession. Like you did when you asked this stupid ass question.
5. Do you believe in Human Nature? It is Human Nature to believe in God, if so, why do you go against human nature and not believe in God?
I’m not sure I understand what you mean by human nature so I’m going to skip to the second part of the question, which is grammatically messed up so let’s see if I can accurately guess your meaning.
I think you want to ask “IF it is human nature to believe in God, why do you go against human nature and not believe in god?” Or something. I’m just gonna go with that.
I don’t think it is human nature to believe in god. Especially not the Christian god. I think that it is easy to look at the sun coming up in the morning and, lacking any scientific knowledge, decide that some being is responsible for ensuring that mechanic functions. A person drives a car so it is not so unrealistic to look at the sun and decide that someone is driving that as well.
That, however, is a child’s explanation. As a child grows older and learns how the cosmos works, they no longer believe in such things.
But let’s assume human nature does exist and it is human nature to believe in God. So what? Is human nature, of necessity, always right? It seems to be human nature to follow charismatic leaders like Adolf Hitler and to do horrible things when that leader tells us to. Had I fled Nazi Germany because I could not follow Hitler, nobody would ask me why I’d failed to follow human nature.
Human nature need not be logical and that means going against it need not be illogical.
6. Can ‘Something come from Nothing’? Doesn’t that violate The First Law of Thermodynamics?
I think that it can but if you are asking me how, I don’t know. I’m not a physicist. I can argue the case from a purely philosophical standpoint, however.
Whether I am right and there is no God or you are right and there is, something had to come from nothing for that to be true. Either the universe came from nothing or God came from nothing and created the universe. In both scenarios, something came from nothing so the answer to your question is yes, something can come from nothing and, at least insofar as we understand the universe, it had to.
7. It seems that a society of Atheist are immoral and self-destructing. Why would anyone want a Godless Society, just look at our examples: North Korea, Maoist China, Stalin, & Pot Pol?
Yeah. Because those societies were fucked up because of atheism. This is the most unbelievable question because it ignores dozens of societies that were immoral and self-destructive while also being theistic in nature. How about the Roman Empire? How about any number of English monarchs? The Mayans? Examples of theistic societies that were also hedonistic are all over the place.
You conveniently focus on the few societies we know were led by atheists and equally conveniently ignore all the rest. Besides, atheists don’t believe that god must be absent from society. We believe it should be absent from government.
8. If you were to die, and you were before God. And he was getting ready to pass judgement on you, What would be your reaction or thoughts? What plea would you give him so he does not judge you harshly?
The first part of your question is useless. I’m going to die. No need to make a statement that assumes I might not.
My first reaction? Surprise. I’d be genuinely shocked that the Christian god was real. Then I’d be angry. Because the Christian god is a petty, bigoted asshole. I would tell him that I tried to treat others kindly and tried to atone for my mistakes with the people I’d wronged and if my failure to believe that Jesus was required for salvation meant I was going to hell, fuck him. I wouldn’t beg that god for forgiveness because it is pretty clear that I wouldn’t have a chance of getting it.
You simultaneously believe in a god who loves and yet would also engage in the most vindictive act possible by punishing someone for eternity simply because they didn’t believe in him. Your god is selfish and cruel and if he really does exist, I would not want to spend eternity in his presence.
9. What would convince you atheism is wrong? And that Christianity is Right?
I’ll answer the second part of your question first. Nothing. Christianity makes no logical sense to me. While I’m willing to allow for the possibility of a godlike being, I do not believe there is any scenario under which I would accept Christianity as providing an understanding of that being. Christianity tells us a lot about ourselves. In my opinion, it tells us nothing about god.
What would convince me some form of god is real? Real, verifiable evidence. Something I can see and touch and others can see and touch. Something that does now allow for multiple interpretations. Something that would stand up to scientific scrutiny.
10. Why are you an Atheist? Why do you NOT believe in God? Why do you reject God? (You can be as detailed as you want.)
I don’t reject God. I can’t reject something that doesn’t exist.
I’ve written longer explanations elsewhere but my simple explanation is this: there is no logical, verifiable evidence that supports the existence of god. Therefore, I do not believe in god.
One final statement to the doucebag who wrote these questions. Why do you care? There is nothing that I say that will sway you from your incredibly illogical point of view. Why did you ask these things of me or anyone? They are badly written, badly researched and clearly created just to make you feel better about what you already believe.
UPDATE: You may have notice that I have received several comments from someone who I would define as a Fundamentalist Christian. I’ve been trying to work through my responses to him.
I respond to comment #1 here.
Comment #2 is here.
Comment #3 (evolution) is here.